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Conversations with Community Managers – Patrick Quinn

August 31, 2009 By Jim Storer

When we heard that the Kansas Department of Transportation had an online community we knew we had to speak with them. Rachel reached out to Patrick Quinn and he graciously accepted her invitation to sit and chat with her about what they’re up to. Patrick talked about how the agency uses social media, what they’ve learned in building K-TOC and shares the challenges and opportunities he’s experienced in building a community in the public sector.

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Conversations with Community Managers – Bryan Person

August 10, 2009 By Jim Storer

It’s a little ironic that I’m doing a podcast with Bryan since the first time we met it was to discuss the best practices and lessons learned he’d accumulated in creating podcasts for Monster.com. He taught me everything I needed to know about podcasting, which served me well at SXSWi when Aaron Strout and I recorded 15 interviews in one evening. Ah the memories…

In this interview, Bryan shares what he’s learned working at Monster, building the highly-successful Social Media Breakfast series and with the talented team at LiveWorld.

I love how Bryan answers my question about his time as a community manager at Monster. It sounds like what a lot of community managers are experiencing today – the “tip of the iceberg” effect.

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The Iceberg Effect of Community Management

August 6, 2009 By Rachel Happe

the-iceberg-effectStarting The Community Roundtable has been a great way to understand better the day to day issues of community managers in a wide array of
organizations. There are a few things that come up somewhat regularly:

  • Community managers are under pressure to justify what they do to peers and bosses that don’t really see or understand what tasks make up their day.
  • Some community managers are dealing with the challenge of inspiring participants to author only to see them become unmotivated when they don’t receive any comments or activity on their content.
  • Almost all the community managers we talk to struggle with ways to maintain or increase engagement.

One thing that more experienced community managers know – and will typically be learned over time by anyone in the role – is that the visible activity of a community is only a very small part of the overall activity of a community. There are a huge number of things that happen in the background, between two individuals, or behind a wall. While over time, this background activity is done by many in the community it typically falls heavily on the community manager during the development and growth phases and include all of the following tasks:

  • Back-channeling: Encouraging participants privately to post, comment, and participate.
  • Event planning and orchestration: Ensuring that events are successful by getting commitment from the influencers within the community that will bring along everyone else and make for a successful event.
  • Posting event documentation and recaps to extend the value of the event and include more members.
  • Sending community activity and content to members that have a specific interest in the topic to ensure the members with something of value to add see it.
  • Drafting content, discussions, and ideas so that it is easy for members to contribute or share.
  • Creating or re-publishing content into different modalities – text, pictures, audio, & video.
  • Building relationships with key members of the community to maintain an ‘ear to the ground’ of what is really going on.
  • Intercepting or interceding with members who are acting inappropriately.
  • Evangelizing within the sponsoring organization to generate more involvement and/or gain support.
  • Gathering and reporting on activity and results.
  • Helping to translate and negotiate between organizational and community needs.
  • Monitoring discussions and content.
  • Brainstorming on activity, content, and ideas that keep community members interested.
  • Working with colleagues to build programming that is valuable to them and the community members.

I’m sure there are quite a few more activities that I’m forgetting (please feel free to add any I missed) but the point is this: If you are just looking at public community activity, you are likely seeing a very small percentage of what is actually going on.

This dynamic is critical to keep in mind when thinking about resources and investment needed to manage a community. What may look like a ‘part-time’ responsibility likely requires much more than that if you want to successfully drive member engagement and growth.  Once a community is more mature and community leaders emerge and take over some of these tasks, the percentage of a community manager’s job likely shifts to less back-channeling and evangelism to more time spent working with community leaders and programming. What you see in a successful online community is really only the tip of the iceberg.

How do you think about, prioritize, and articulate your ‘hidden’ work?

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Conversations with Community Managers – Adam Cohen

July 29, 2009 By Jim Storer

I met Adam several years ago at my very first Social Media Breakfast in Boston and was impressed from the start. Whether it’s transforming business with social media and community, staying current with his blog or dissecting the latest Red Sox trade rumors, he’s up to the task.

When we caught up for this podcast Adam shared his thoughts on how companies can best begin making their websites more conversational and how digital agencies like Rosetta are evolving in the face of the new social reality.

What’s your advice for making a web site more conversational? How can big brands evolve from a static web presence to one that engages you?

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https://media.blubrry.com/608862/communityroundtable.com/podcasts/adamcohen_final.mp3

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Introducing @TheCR Quick Chat

July 16, 2009 By Jim Storer

While Rachel and I spend a lot of our time working with Community Roundtable members to help them be successful community managers, we also want to make sure some of what we do gives back to folks that aren’t members yet, but still want to stay on top of the latest trends/issues in community management.

With that in mind, we’ve created a podcast series we call @TheCR Quick Chat. This series focuses on issues, ideas and best practices for community managers and social media practitioners. We’re scheduling chats with community managers, analysts and social media consultants with a goal of uncovering nuggets of wisdom each week. We can’t promise they’ll always be quick, but they’ll be full of great insights if you’re interested in community management.

We’re working putting this up on iTunes, but didn’t want to stop us from sharing the conversations we’ve had to date. Subscribe to this blog and we’ll be sure to post an update when we get iTunes set up.

We’re pleased to make our first chat available, recorded recently with Keith Burtis from Best Buy. Keith is the community manager for the recently launched Best Buy Remix, the open API for Best Buy’s product catalog. In this podcast he shares how he got started in community management, how he supports the Remix community, his thoughts on metrics for community managers and more.

Download the mp3 (24 min/21.8 mb)

Future @TheCR Quick Chats:

David Alston (VP – Marketing/Community, Radian6)

Adam Cohen (Partner, Rosetta)

Bryan Person (Founder, Social Media Breakfast & Evangelist, LiveWorld)

Michael Brito (Social Media Evangelist, Intel)

If you’d like us to add you or someone you know to this list, drop us a note or add a comment to this post. Thanks for your support!

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What Defines a Community Manager?

June 9, 2009 By Rachel Happe

By Rachel Happe, Principal and Co-Founder of TheCR

Flat HillaryWhat is a community manager?

We all know that the community manager role comes in a wide variety of flavors with different expectations and different levels of responsibilities and often the person in the role isn’t called a community manager – they may be a VP of Marketing, a director of customer support, a business analyst. For us at The Community Roundtable this is a complex issue because it gets at the heart of who we target and invite in to our community. So what makes one VP of support a community manger and another just a VP of support? What does the person who manages a smaller B2B community have in common with the major brand manager who is managing tens of thousands of people?

Tough questions for us but critical to define. If The Community Roundtable can tackle that one issue with some success, I will feel like we have helped move the conversation forward for the whole market. Today I opened up the conversation to my Twitter crowd and got a flurry of activity. Below are some of the definitions and replies:

@Aronado – @rhappe who reps the Co. and has the most consistent & deep relationships with the customers

@megfowler – @rhappe I think you define it according to volume, tone, results, and uptake in terms of community response (also volume + tone)

@AuctionDirect @rhappe – Engagement levels, type of content, metric objectives (ie: proven traffic, conversions, leads, revenue, etc) Stuff like that?

@4byoung – @rhappe Tough call. No consensus in biz as to what a comm manager is / should be. Ability to organize & manage groups is key.

All good suggestions. One issue I raised is that some of the best community managers I know are like the silent hand of God – they don’t necessarily post and get huge reactions… they get others who get huge reactions to post. So direct measurement of short term responsiveness is dicey. A couple of people had really good analogies that I thought were useful to think about:

@gyehuda – @rhappe the analogy I use is Minister of Culture – not the artist, not the mayor, not the police, but still has budget and responsibility

@ayeletb – @rhappe That’s the same issue as communicators – everybody’s job is communication esp leaders so there is a need to isolate com mgr role too

I liked Gil’s the best – in that it is the job of the community manager to create the environment, set the stage, and make sure participants are encouraged and rewarded but not to be the primary actor. That means the measure of the community managers success is the activities of the community members. But what is the timeframe to measure? I would bet that the timeframe is different for different types of communities.

There were some other insights that I thought worth pulling out. 1 – Community managers job is to interface between one group or community and another. @AmberCadabra @DavidAlston and I were just discussing this today – that community managers spend just as much time converting internal advocates as they do with the community they were hired to manage. So the interface or foil role is important to the job description.

@Aronado – @rhappe haha! well, to me it means allowing a situation where two or more communities begin to communicate effectively with one another

There were also some things that people felt a community manager must do:

@DavidWLocke – @rhappe Someone who never posts can’t be the CM. No credibility. Ah, a metric.

So there are patterns we can identify – if not always explicit metrics.

A community manager:

The Community Skills Framework help community managers identify their strengths and find areas to improve their skills.

The Community Skills Framework help community managers identify their strengths and find areas to improve their skills.

 

– Manages the interface between two communities/groups/networks (in effect be a translator)
– Participates in the conversation personally
– Creates the environment the encourages the intended outcome
– Influences activity of the participants

My question is not completely answered – still working out in my mind how I might identify the customer support manager who is a community manager vs. one who is not. Like many things in life, I know it when I see it but I can’t quite put words to everything. Characteristics I would add but have a hard time finding fact-based items to use as identifiers are:

– Must be a connector – (which is different than a hub)
– Have a desire to attract people vs. hunt people down
– Have no need to be right but also have an assertive perspective

Ultimately, you can have an isolated, discrete community manager or you can have a person in a functional role, performing that role in a community or social fashion. Is one a community manager but the other not? How would you decide?

I welcome your thoughts on this. As the community manager role evolves – and gets more strategic – it is will change. Who *should* we at The Community Roundtable consider a community manager?

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