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Tim Walker on Community Manager Vs. Social Media Manager

April 8, 2010 By Jim Storer

The Community Roundtable has partnered with Voce Communications to produce a new podcast series, “Conversations with Community Managers.” In this series, TheCR’s Jim Storer joins forces with Voce’s Doug Haslam to speak with people from a variety of industries about their efforts with community and social media management.

Our second episode features an interview with Tim Walker, Social Media Manager at Hoovers. From their web site:

We deliver comprehensive insight and analysis about the companies, industries and people that drive the economy, along with the powerful tools to find and connect to the right people to get business done.

Conversation highlights include:

  • Knowing when to use what tools… Twitter, Facebook, email, phone or a walk down the hall.
  • A discussion of the difference between being community manager and a social media manager.
  • Understanding the balance between “on-domain” and “off-domain” engagement.
  • What community management and The Dating Game have in common. (!!)

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MUSIC CREDIT: “Bleuacide” by graphiqsgroove.

About Conversations with Community Managers*
To better reflect the diverse conversations our podcast covers we’ve changed the name of our long-running series to Community Conversations.
Community Conversations highlights short conversations with some of the smartest minds in the online community and social business space, exploring what they’re working on, why they do what they do, and what advice they have for you.
These episodes are a great way to begin to understand the nuances of community strategy and management.
Each episode is short (usually less than 30 minutes) and focuses on one community management professional.

https://media.blubrry.com/608862/communityroundtable.com/podcasts/CwCM_timwalker.mp3

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DJ Waldow on Scale Issues and a Day in His Life

April 1, 2010 By Jim Storer

The Community Roundtable has partnered with Voce Communications to produce a new podcast series, “Conversations with Community Managers.” In this series, TheCR’s Jim Storer joins forces with Voce’s Doug Haslam to speak with people from a variety of industries about their efforts with community and social media management. Since there’s a bit of an overlap between this series and @TheCR Quick Chat, we’re posting these in place of the QC for the time being.

DJ Waldow from Blue Sky FactoryOur first episode features an interview with DJ Waldow, Director of Community at Blue Sky Factory. From their web site:

Blue Sky Factory is all about your success (Blue Sky), and the idea that success isn’t luck or an accident, but something you make (Factory). Our chosen vehicle for helping you achieve success is email marketing.

Highlights include:
– DJ answers the “isn’t email dead?” question.
– We discuss the difference between social media and community management, and how DJ juggles the two roles.
– DJ describes a day in his life, from monitoring to outreach and response and even prospecting
– We discuss scale issues for smaller companies, larger companies, and franchises

*Special Bonus: DJ mentioned being an expectant father during this recording. Eva Claire Waldow was born Tuesday, March 23, 2010. Congratulations!


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MUSIC CREDIT: “Bleuacide” by graphiqsgroove.

About Conversations with Community Managers*
To better reflect the diverse conversations our podcast covers we’ve changed the name of our long-running series to Community Conversations.
Community Conversations highlights short conversations with some of the smartest minds in the online community and social business space, exploring what they’re working on, why they do what they do, and what advice they have for you.
These episodes are a great way to begin to understand the nuances of community strategy and management.
Each episode is short (usually less than 30 minutes) and focuses on one community management professional.

https://media.blubrry.com/608862/communityroundtable.com/podcasts/CwCM_djwaldow.mp3

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Relationship Inflation and the Role of Communities

March 29, 2010 By Rachel Happe

Umair Haque wrote a very thought provoking post The Social Media Bubble for the Harvard Business Review where he talked about social media’s inflationary effect on relationships and with it the devolution of the value we can expect from them. He argues that while we may have a lot more relationships, they are very superficial. Far from creating a new democratic groundswell, the new channels are just creating new gatekeepers. Added to that, he notes the propensity for hate and exclusion that online environments can create.

I think a lot of what Umair points to is definitely taking place but I also think Umair has not articulated the value that weak links do have and social networks capacity to use that value in efficient ways – even if that value is not huge.  I also think he threw the baby out with the bathwater – meaning there are online environments where real and lasting relationships are developing, they may just not be as obvious looking at the majority of activity happening on Facebook, Twitter, and Linked because many of these deeper relationships take place in more narrowly defined online communities.

What I loved about the post is that it forces the question of value – as businesses what value do we really need and/or what from our relationships? It’s a great additional perspective to add to the conversation about the difference between social media and community management. If the goal is to develop awareness – social content that people will share with their weak links is the most useful mechanism. If we want to ensure satisfied customers that will make repeat purchases of products that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, there has to be some kind of deeper relationship – and the deeper the relationship, the better the ability to address issues and delight someone.  Social media is not going to be sufficient to build that kind of relationship – it requires the investment of time, building shared experiences, and some face-to-face interaction.    Social software is a great way to increase the number of interactions with someone, maintain ambient awareness, and help in building strong relationships but it will not be the social software that binds the relationship – it will be the people involved. Two years ago I wrote a post that addresses this point – Relationship Development is a Process, Technology Can (sometimes) Help.

Understanding what type of relationships are required to meet your business objective and then matching that with the modes of communication – both online and off – that are best suited to build that type of relationship is critical to operationalizing your goals. Building a network map of your organization and all of its relationship needs (with customers, employees, partners, the public, investors, suppliers, etc) will help you see which tools span the various needs. Mapping your relationship needs to your business strategy and priorities will identify where you are likely to see the biggest payoff for your technology investments.  Technology, of course, will not be enough – having human resources to manage the relationships that are enhanced or enabled through these new ‘social’ channels is absolutely critical and the deeper the relationship needs are, the more human resources you will need to develop and maintain them.

Clearly articulating business priorities and strategies is the underlying key to effectively investing in relationships that matter – and the associated technologies that will help get you there faster or cheaper than you would otherwise.

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Differentiating Between Social Media and Community Management

March 17, 2010 By Rachel Happe

By Rachel Happe, Principal and Co-Founder of TheCR

As someone who works with social media managers and community managers, it seems the line between the two types of positions is not terribly clear – and maybe doesn’t need to be – but I think it would be helpful to distinguish between the two.  Why? Jim will often say that everyone is a community manager and he is right – everyone has a group of constituents which could be cultivated to drive better performance.  However, not all companies want, need to, or can cultivate a community. I may see this differently than many and here is my take:

Community infers the following:

  • Tight interlinking relationships between a significant percentage of members
  • An acknowledgment of shared fate or purpose
  • A potentially wide range of topics/conversations within that shared purpose
  • A distributed leadership network – sometimes with a single leader, sometimes not
  • A core membership that is relatively stable and active

Social media on the other hand infers the following:

  • Socially- or conversationally- enabled content
  • A loose network with the predominant structure being a hub and spoke model of interaction between an audience and the content creator
  • Comment/response transactions

To me this means that communities and social media are good for different types of business outcomes.Social Media vs CM Quote

In low complexity markets and use cases (think Sharpie pens) the focus is on social media because the relationships desired between Newell Rubbermaid and Sharpie customers does not need to be that deep – and the business model cannot support deep relationship development (i.e. spending hundreds on developing a relationship with a customer who buys $25 worth of products doesn’t make much sense).  The goal is providing infrastructure and management that drives awareness and a sense of connection to the brand with tens of thousands or millions of customers.  Furthermore, proactively connecting customers with other customers doesn’t do much for Newell Rubbermaid because customers don’t need deep references from other customers to make the decision to purchase or to use the product itself. This example is managed by someone who aggregates UGC, publishes content, and responds to people talking about Sharpie – either on the site itself or on a public social network.

social media management

Some common social media tools.

In high complexity markets or use cases, communities make more sense. If the decision-making process is
complex and long to reach a conversion, customers benefit greatly by interacting and building relationships with other customers – as well as getting introduced to affiliated product and service providers who can help them maximize their value.  Adobe’s design tool communities are a good example of this – customers help each other maximize the use of the tool, creating better adoption and affiliation. Because the price point of the product is higher, the business model can support richer relationship development.  These communities are managed by people who are connecting members to each other and to relevant content but may be doing very little content creation themselves.

The confusion comes because in both cases, the person managing the initiative is responsible for being responsive and conversational, for tracking the success of the interactions in driving desired outcomes, and sometimes they use similar tools.

I took a stab at articulating the primary responsibilities of social media managers and community managers.

Social Media Manager:

  • Content Creation  (Blogging/vlogging/podcasting) designed to spur conversation/viral sharing
  • Responding to conversations about the brand and the content
  • Ensuring input/feedback gets channeled to the appropriate internal functional group
  • Curating and promoting UGC
  • Managing tools – mostly social networks (Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc) and blogs
  • Reporting/measurement

    community manager

    Not every community manager looks like this, but some do!

  • Planning and developing strategies for increasing engagement and conversion

Community Manager:

 

  • Welcoming members to the community & acclimating them
  • Building relationships with key members of the community and influencers
  • Moderating conversation and encouraging specific topics
  • Promoting members, making introductions to other members, and encouraging relationship formation
  • Running regular programming/content/events
  • Finding internal resources to respond to specific community discussions and coordinating cross-functional needs
  • Enforcing guidelines/boundaries
  • Managing tools – might be a combination of enterprise & social networks (FB, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc)
  • Reporting/measurement
  • Channeling input and response from community into other organizational processes
  • Planning and developing strategies for increasing engagement and conversionThe Community Skills Framework help community managers identify their strengths and find areas to improve their skills.

Do you agree that there is a difference in these two roles and if so, do you agree with how I have differentiated them? Admittedly, there is a lot of overlap but I believe the intent and focus of each role is fairly unique. For companies looking to make a hire in this space, it is useful to understand whether they need primarily a content-oriented person or a relationship-oriented person.

If you’re looking for way to hone your community management skills check out the Community Careers and

 

Compensation research, our Community Skills Frameworks and more free community manager resources!

 

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Need community management resources? Check out our online training courses, our community benchmarks and TheCR Network – a private community for community pros. 

Mark Wallace on His Experience with Community

November 6, 2009 By Jim Storer

Mark and I worked together at three different companies between 1996 – 2007. During that time we worked on social media and community projects of all shapes and sizes. When he told me he was leaving to take on a lead role in EDR‘s Commonground community I was thrilled. He has a deep passion for community and this just seemed like a great fit (it is!).

Due in large part to Mark’s hard work and dedication, Commonground was recently awarded a Forrester  Groundswell Award for Outstanding B2B Customer Support Community. I congratulated Mark soon afterward and asked him to join me for a podcast to explore what he’s learned along the way. Apparently I wasn’t the only one with this brilliant idea. Another former colleague (and good friend) Aaron Strout asked Mark to do an email interview with him that same day! In the end it worked out better for you, because you get two for the price of one!

I had the chance to read Aaron’s interview before I chatted with Mark and took the opportunity to take our conversation in a little bit of a different direction. I think you’ll agree it’s a great listen. Enjoy!

Download this podcast (19 minutes/17.3mb)

 

About Conversations with Community Managers*
To better reflect the diverse conversations our podcast covers we’ve changed the name of our long-running series to Community Conversations.
Community Conversations highlights short conversations with some of the smartest minds in the online community and social business space, exploring what they’re working on, why they do what they do, and what advice they have for you.
These episodes are a great way to begin to understand the nuances of community strategy and management.
Each episode is short (usually less than 30 minutes) and focuses on one community management professional.

https://media.blubrry.com/608862/communityroundtable.com/podcasts/markwallace_final.mp3

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Aaron Strout on Measurement and Best Practices

October 29, 2009 By Jim Storer

tough night I’ve been friends with Aaron since he and I were on the team together at Shared Insights. We worked on community projects like “We Are Smarter than Me” and traveled the country recording podcasts with industry rockstars. It was a bit odd interviewing Aaron since we’d tag-teamed so many interviews in the past, but we muddled through. 🙂

On the podcast, Aaron shares more about Powered, including how their “four super powers” – Strategy, Content, Measurement and Platform – support communities for clients like Radio Shack, Sony, HP and Atkins. We dug into content and measurement in detail, exploring how companies should think about these important facets of community building.

We also talked about Aaron’s role as an evangelist (or the Kevin Bacon of social media as Adam Cohen noted) and what best practices he’s picked up along the way. Given Aaron’s success and influence this is must-listen stuff. He’s humble of course, but shares a lot of nuggets about the secrets to his success.

Download this podcast (22 minutes/19.8mb)

 

About Conversations with Community Managers*
To better reflect the diverse conversations our podcast covers we’ve changed the name of our long-running series to Community Conversations.
Community Conversations highlights short conversations with some of the smartest minds in the online community and social business space, exploring what they’re working on, why they do what they do, and what advice they have for you.
These episodes are a great way to begin to understand the nuances of community strategy and management.
Each episode is short (usually less than 30 minutes) and focuses on one community management professional.

https://media.blubrry.com/608862/communityroundtable.com/podcasts/aaronstrout_final.mp3

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Conversations with Community Managers – Michael Brito

September 22, 2009 By Jim Storer

I found Michael Brito (@britopian) through a mention on Twitter. He’d written a blog post called “Social Media Marketing Will Soon Become a Commodity Skill Set” and it somehow found it’s way into my stream. I agreed with the premise and let Michael know on Twitter. We had a back and forth and before long I asked him to join me for a podcast. We spoke a couple days later the the rest is history (captured on this podcast for your enjoyment).

We talked about listening and responding via social networks, humanizing brands and what happens when those humans move on and finally talked about the blog post that originally brought us together. It was a great chat – I hope you enjoy it!

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Conversations with Community Managers – Patrick Quinn

August 31, 2009 By Jim Storer

When we heard that the Kansas Department of Transportation had an online community we knew we had to speak with them. Rachel reached out to Patrick Quinn and he graciously accepted her invitation to sit and chat with her about what they’re up to. Patrick talked about how the agency uses social media, what they’ve learned in building K-TOC and shares the challenges and opportunities he’s experienced in building a community in the public sector.

Download this podcast (28 minutes/25.7mb)

 

https://media.blubrry.com/608862/communityroundtable.com/podcasts/patrickquinn_final.mp3

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Conversations with Community Managers – Adam Cohen

July 29, 2009 By Jim Storer

I met Adam several years ago at my very first Social Media Breakfast in Boston and was impressed from the start. Whether it’s transforming business with social media and community, staying current with his blog or dissecting the latest Red Sox trade rumors, he’s up to the task.

When we caught up for this podcast Adam shared his thoughts on how companies can best begin making their websites more conversational and how digital agencies like Rosetta are evolving in the face of the new social reality.

What’s your advice for making a web site more conversational? How can big brands evolve from a static web presence to one that engages you?

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https://media.blubrry.com/608862/communityroundtable.com/podcasts/adamcohen_final.mp3

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The Organizational Impact of Social Media

May 9, 2009 By Rachel Happe

I’ve already had the opportunity to present twice as the Principal of The Community Roundtable – at PRSA’s Digital Impact Conference last week and at a local Girls in Tech event this week. Both were related to how social media was impacting organizations.

The PRSA event was great because it is was a chance to interact with a lot of experienced PR & communications professionals. The most interesting thing about the event was that a lot of the speakers brought up the Dominos video episode as a standard for how to manage communications in this social age. To me, it was my example of ‘Didn’t get it quite right’. While Dominos did eventually use YouTube to respond, it wasn’t before it had spread broadly and reached most main stream media outlets.  While I was in NYC, KickApps was gracious in inviting me to a cocktail party at their offices in honor of Tara Hunt’s new book, The Whuffie Factor which was also a great opportunity to chat with a number of people leading their orginization’s social media initiatives. Here is my presentation from the PRSA conference, The Naked CEO:

The Naked Ceo

View more presentations from Rachel Happe.

This week, Kate Brodock did a great job planning and moderating a Girls in Tech panel on Using Social Media in Your Organization, sponsored by Microsoft in Cambridge. On the panel with me were Mike Langford of Tweetworks, Cappy Popp from Thought Labs, and Karen Rubin from Hubspot. Kate set us up to all have a schtick which worked really well – Mike covered micro-blogging, Cappy covered Twitter, Karen covered content, and I covered community. Then we took on two case studies, Shoestring magazine and Generation Progress. I don’t know how well it worked for the audience but it worked really well for me as a participant and it was a lot of fun. Here’s the video, thanks to Mike:

If you would rather download a podcast, Jeff Cutler also was nice enough to record it here.

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